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		<title>Comment on Shaping Reason, One Post At A Time by Hannah Lewis</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Shaping Reason, One Post At A Time by McBloggenstein</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>McBloggenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good!

Looking forward to more posts...

I have the notion from time to time to either turn my blog into the exact antithesis to the Shapely Prose(mocking it with a similar look and title), or to make a new one.

I usually conclude that I don't have as much time as they do to put into it, so I wouldn't do it justice.

I found you from "My Fat Spouse", by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good!</p>
<p>Looking forward to more posts&#8230;</p>
<p>I have the notion from time to time to either turn my blog into the exact antithesis to the Shapely Prose(mocking it with a similar look and title), or to make a new one.</p>
<p>I usually conclude that I don&#8217;t have as much time as they do to put into it, so I wouldn&#8217;t do it justice.</p>
<p>I found you from &#8220;My Fat Spouse&#8221;, by the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shaping Reason, One Post At A Time by Leonora</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Buddhists say "the Middle way". I'm not a Buddhist but I tend to believe this. Thank you so much for your reasonable answer to what I believe is a swinging pendulum of emotion and anger centered around the human form. 

There IS such a thing as being "too fat" to be healthy and there is such a thing as being "too skinny" to be healthy. 
But there is no such thing as being too fat or too skinny to be human. Where there is politics and rage there should be common sense and compassion. I'm so dismayed about this. 

When I first ran into the FA movement a few days ago I thought what I was seeing was a movement about acceptance of larger frames and smaller frames in balance. I have a wider bone structure.. what is a healthy "size" for me may not be healthy for the next person and by healthy I mean balanced and sustained by a reasonable diet and moderate exercise. 

We do need to challenge the unrealistic expectations of pullpushing and the fashion industry.. but not like this. For them you will never be skinny enough because if you are you will stop buying their products.. for the FA movement you are discouraged from trying to lose weight because if you do then you arn't supporting their politics and views. 

Always be wary of people silencing your speech and censoring you because whenever they do it, it's never because of your best interests but because of their agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Buddhists say &#8220;the Middle way&#8221;. I&#8217;m not a Buddhist but I tend to believe this. Thank you so much for your reasonable answer to what I believe is a swinging pendulum of emotion and anger centered around the human form. </p>
<p>There IS such a thing as being &#8220;too fat&#8221; to be healthy and there is such a thing as being &#8220;too skinny&#8221; to be healthy.<br />
But there is no such thing as being too fat or too skinny to be human. Where there is politics and rage there should be common sense and compassion. I&#8217;m so dismayed about this. </p>
<p>When I first ran into the FA movement a few days ago I thought what I was seeing was a movement about acceptance of larger frames and smaller frames in balance. I have a wider bone structure.. what is a healthy &#8220;size&#8221; for me may not be healthy for the next person and by healthy I mean balanced and sustained by a reasonable diet and moderate exercise. </p>
<p>We do need to challenge the unrealistic expectations of pullpushing and the fashion industry.. but not like this. For them you will never be skinny enough because if you are you will stop buying their products.. for the FA movement you are discouraged from trying to lose weight because if you do then you arn&#8217;t supporting their politics and views. </p>
<p>Always be wary of people silencing your speech and censoring you because whenever they do it, it&#8217;s never because of your best interests but because of their agenda.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Quick Question by Regine</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/07/a-quick-question/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Regine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Veronique: I am skinny, and I've always been and I get asked a lot whether I eat. People take for granted I'm anorexic. With this I'm saying that everyone can get bullied for one or another reason. It's just people's way to feel themselves superior when they actually feel miserable, I'd guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Veronique: I am skinny, and I&#8217;ve always been and I get asked a lot whether I eat. People take for granted I&#8217;m anorexic. With this I&#8217;m saying that everyone can get bullied for one or another reason. It&#8217;s just people&#8217;s way to feel themselves superior when they actually feel miserable, I&#8217;d guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shaping Reason, One Post At A Time by RerTrekamall</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>RerTrekamall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Quick Question by Eva</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/07/a-quick-question/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god. I just read the article and I was sickened by the reply and a good portion of the comments. Her friend(s) treated her like crap.

And the way Aunt Fattie explained that they wanted a "safe place" ... and that they are fully within their rights to discriminate based on size ... that is disgusting!

I happen to be part of the underweight crowd and in no way do I hang out with people that are larger to improve my own self-esteem. If my friends - ANY of my friends - treated me like that it would be pretty obvious that they were not really my friends. Um, hello?
Friends are supposed to be friendly. (xD)
Not backstabbing bitches.
/end rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god. I just read the article and I was sickened by the reply and a good portion of the comments. Her friend(s) treated her like crap.</p>
<p>And the way Aunt Fattie explained that they wanted a &#8220;safe place&#8221; &#8230; and that they are fully within their rights to discriminate based on size &#8230; that is disgusting!</p>
<p>I happen to be part of the underweight crowd and in no way do I hang out with people that are larger to improve my own self-esteem. If my friends - ANY of my friends - treated me like that it would be pretty obvious that they were not really my friends. Um, hello?<br />
Friends are supposed to be friendly. (xD)<br />
Not backstabbing bitches.<br />
/end rant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Quick Question by Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veronique, losing weight should be done for oneself, not other people. I'm sure that fat people do get bullied, but so do short people, skinny people, tall people, you can see where I'm going with this. It's not up to us to make you feel good enough about yourself to lose weight and saying that other people need to make you feel good about yourself before you lose weight is taking the responsibility off your shoulders. I don't agree with this at all.

While I agree that pissing people off is a lot of fun and I love doing it, I would never sacrifice my health to make a point. I'd rather be healthy and happy and be able to give them the snub they deserve when I've reached their standard of "beauty" as opposed to sitting there like a sullen spoiled child refusing to do anything until someone validated me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veronique, losing weight should be done for oneself, not other people. I&#8217;m sure that fat people do get bullied, but so do short people, skinny people, tall people, you can see where I&#8217;m going with this. It&#8217;s not up to us to make you feel good enough about yourself to lose weight and saying that other people need to make you feel good about yourself before you lose weight is taking the responsibility off your shoulders. I don&#8217;t agree with this at all.</p>
<p>While I agree that pissing people off is a lot of fun and I love doing it, I would never sacrifice my health to make a point. I&#8217;d rather be healthy and happy and be able to give them the snub they deserve when I&#8217;ve reached their standard of &#8220;beauty&#8221; as opposed to sitting there like a sullen spoiled child refusing to do anything until someone validated me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Quick Question by Veronique</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/07/a-quick-question/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate those hypocrite activists. If they would say: I don't care about living a long and healty life so I stay fat cause I feel ok the way I am, I wouldn't care. But they spread the idea that it is normal and healty and that is what is wrong!

I all agree with middle class fat women not being a victim, but let's not forget that fat people get bullied for real and for no other reason. If that's not true, explain how sitting in a bus make you offensive to someone until he start saying to his friend 'Hey look how ugly the girl is in seat #'! Why someone completly different kept screaming 'here comes the fat blond' each time I got near him? 

I start losing weight when people stop making fun of me. Then I was more confident and, it's a cycle, start losing weight and it made me more and more confident. You don't really feel like making effort for others when you hate them so I had to wait until I  met people I wanted to be beautiful and healty for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate those hypocrite activists. If they would say: I don&#8217;t care about living a long and healty life so I stay fat cause I feel ok the way I am, I wouldn&#8217;t care. But they spread the idea that it is normal and healty and that is what is wrong!</p>
<p>I all agree with middle class fat women not being a victim, but let&#8217;s not forget that fat people get bullied for real and for no other reason. If that&#8217;s not true, explain how sitting in a bus make you offensive to someone until he start saying to his friend &#8216;Hey look how ugly the girl is in seat #&#8217;! Why someone completly different kept screaming &#8216;here comes the fat blond&#8217; each time I got near him? </p>
<p>I start losing weight when people stop making fun of me. Then I was more confident and, it&#8217;s a cycle, start losing weight and it made me more and more confident. You don&#8217;t really feel like making effort for others when you hate them so I had to wait until I  met people I wanted to be beautiful and healty for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Quick Question by May</title>
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		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**Ugh. You’re playing the victim card a little early there, Harding. Middle class white women like you don’t get to pretend you’re suddenly on par with brown people in the oppression sweepstakes because you’re morbidly obese.**

I agree 1000000% with this statement. Paying for two airplane seats because your ass eclipses the allotted space =/= being tied to a fence and bludgeoned to death in a freezing Wyoming winter or being dragged to death behind a pick-up truck in Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Ugh. You’re playing the victim card a little early there, Harding. Middle class white women like you don’t get to pretend you’re suddenly on par with brown people in the oppression sweepstakes because you’re morbidly obese.**</p>
<p>I agree 1000000% with this statement. Paying for two airplane seats because your ass eclipses the allotted space =/= being tied to a fence and bludgeoned to death in a freezing Wyoming winter or being dragged to death behind a pick-up truck in Texas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shaping Reason, One Post At A Time by Morgan</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can't believe how glad I am you guys (girls) are trying to give this "movement" some counterweight. No, really, a couple of days ago, I stumbled upon a so-called Fat Blog and I find it in three words: ignorant, absurd and egoistic. Why would anyone want to promote being fat? 
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with being a bit overweight, but when it gets to the point that you have a serious chance of getting heart diseases and diabetes, then I think it's simply absurd to say: "Oh well, that isn't going to happen to me. I'm fat, but I like it and I'm not going to do anything about it." Simply when taking in consideration that not only you yourself, but your friends and family are going to suffer from it too.

I know that wanting to be skinny can cause problems too, such as depression, when you cannot lose the weight you'd like to loose, or even anorexia and such. So I do think it's wonderful if people can accept themselves the way they are and love themselves the way they are, but that doesn't mean that there's never room for improvement. You can love yourself, even if you are overweight, but if the doctor tells you that you might get diabetes or such and you decide not to do something about it, then you don't really love yourself that much after all.

So, really guys, this is a great idea. Someone has to stop those people putting ignorant and absurd thoughts into the minds of our younger ones (because especially teenagers and such suffer from being teased for being too fat, and they are easiy influenced), because we all know that serious overweight is just as dangerous as anorexia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t believe how glad I am you guys (girls) are trying to give this &#8220;movement&#8221; some counterweight. No, really, a couple of days ago, I stumbled upon a so-called Fat Blog and I find it in three words: ignorant, absurd and egoistic. Why would anyone want to promote being fat?<br />
Personally, I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with being a bit overweight, but when it gets to the point that you have a serious chance of getting heart diseases and diabetes, then I think it&#8217;s simply absurd to say: &#8220;Oh well, that isn&#8217;t going to happen to me. I&#8217;m fat, but I like it and I&#8217;m not going to do anything about it.&#8221; Simply when taking in consideration that not only you yourself, but your friends and family are going to suffer from it too.</p>
<p>I know that wanting to be skinny can cause problems too, such as depression, when you cannot lose the weight you&#8217;d like to loose, or even anorexia and such. So I do think it&#8217;s wonderful if people can accept themselves the way they are and love themselves the way they are, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that there&#8217;s never room for improvement. You can love yourself, even if you are overweight, but if the doctor tells you that you might get diabetes or such and you decide not to do something about it, then you don&#8217;t really love yourself that much after all.</p>
<p>So, really guys, this is a great idea. Someone has to stop those people putting ignorant and absurd thoughts into the minds of our younger ones (because especially teenagers and such suffer from being teased for being too fat, and they are easiy influenced), because we all know that serious overweight is just as dangerous as anorexia.</p>
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