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		<title>By: Hannah Lewis</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: McBloggenstein</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>McBloggenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good!

Looking forward to more posts...

I have the notion from time to time to either turn my blog into the exact antithesis to the Shapely Prose(mocking it with a similar look and title), or to make a new one.

I usually conclude that I don't have as much time as they do to put into it, so I wouldn't do it justice.

I found you from "My Fat Spouse", by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good!</p>
<p>Looking forward to more posts&#8230;</p>
<p>I have the notion from time to time to either turn my blog into the exact antithesis to the Shapely Prose(mocking it with a similar look and title), or to make a new one.</p>
<p>I usually conclude that I don&#8217;t have as much time as they do to put into it, so I wouldn&#8217;t do it justice.</p>
<p>I found you from &#8220;My Fat Spouse&#8221;, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonora</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Buddhists say "the Middle way". I'm not a Buddhist but I tend to believe this. Thank you so much for your reasonable answer to what I believe is a swinging pendulum of emotion and anger centered around the human form. 

There IS such a thing as being "too fat" to be healthy and there is such a thing as being "too skinny" to be healthy. 
But there is no such thing as being too fat or too skinny to be human. Where there is politics and rage there should be common sense and compassion. I'm so dismayed about this. 

When I first ran into the FA movement a few days ago I thought what I was seeing was a movement about acceptance of larger frames and smaller frames in balance. I have a wider bone structure.. what is a healthy "size" for me may not be healthy for the next person and by healthy I mean balanced and sustained by a reasonable diet and moderate exercise. 

We do need to challenge the unrealistic expectations of pullpushing and the fashion industry.. but not like this. For them you will never be skinny enough because if you are you will stop buying their products.. for the FA movement you are discouraged from trying to lose weight because if you do then you arn't supporting their politics and views. 

Always be wary of people silencing your speech and censoring you because whenever they do it, it's never because of your best interests but because of their agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Buddhists say &#8220;the Middle way&#8221;. I&#8217;m not a Buddhist but I tend to believe this. Thank you so much for your reasonable answer to what I believe is a swinging pendulum of emotion and anger centered around the human form. </p>
<p>There IS such a thing as being &#8220;too fat&#8221; to be healthy and there is such a thing as being &#8220;too skinny&#8221; to be healthy.<br />
But there is no such thing as being too fat or too skinny to be human. Where there is politics and rage there should be common sense and compassion. I&#8217;m so dismayed about this. </p>
<p>When I first ran into the FA movement a few days ago I thought what I was seeing was a movement about acceptance of larger frames and smaller frames in balance. I have a wider bone structure.. what is a healthy &#8220;size&#8221; for me may not be healthy for the next person and by healthy I mean balanced and sustained by a reasonable diet and moderate exercise. </p>
<p>We do need to challenge the unrealistic expectations of pullpushing and the fashion industry.. but not like this. For them you will never be skinny enough because if you are you will stop buying their products.. for the FA movement you are discouraged from trying to lose weight because if you do then you arn&#8217;t supporting their politics and views. </p>
<p>Always be wary of people silencing your speech and censoring you because whenever they do it, it&#8217;s never because of your best interests but because of their agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: RerTrekamall</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>RerTrekamall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post</description>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can't believe how glad I am you guys (girls) are trying to give this "movement" some counterweight. No, really, a couple of days ago, I stumbled upon a so-called Fat Blog and I find it in three words: ignorant, absurd and egoistic. Why would anyone want to promote being fat? 
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with being a bit overweight, but when it gets to the point that you have a serious chance of getting heart diseases and diabetes, then I think it's simply absurd to say: "Oh well, that isn't going to happen to me. I'm fat, but I like it and I'm not going to do anything about it." Simply when taking in consideration that not only you yourself, but your friends and family are going to suffer from it too.

I know that wanting to be skinny can cause problems too, such as depression, when you cannot lose the weight you'd like to loose, or even anorexia and such. So I do think it's wonderful if people can accept themselves the way they are and love themselves the way they are, but that doesn't mean that there's never room for improvement. You can love yourself, even if you are overweight, but if the doctor tells you that you might get diabetes or such and you decide not to do something about it, then you don't really love yourself that much after all.

So, really guys, this is a great idea. Someone has to stop those people putting ignorant and absurd thoughts into the minds of our younger ones (because especially teenagers and such suffer from being teased for being too fat, and they are easiy influenced), because we all know that serious overweight is just as dangerous as anorexia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t believe how glad I am you guys (girls) are trying to give this &#8220;movement&#8221; some counterweight. No, really, a couple of days ago, I stumbled upon a so-called Fat Blog and I find it in three words: ignorant, absurd and egoistic. Why would anyone want to promote being fat?<br />
Personally, I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with being a bit overweight, but when it gets to the point that you have a serious chance of getting heart diseases and diabetes, then I think it&#8217;s simply absurd to say: &#8220;Oh well, that isn&#8217;t going to happen to me. I&#8217;m fat, but I like it and I&#8217;m not going to do anything about it.&#8221; Simply when taking in consideration that not only you yourself, but your friends and family are going to suffer from it too.</p>
<p>I know that wanting to be skinny can cause problems too, such as depression, when you cannot lose the weight you&#8217;d like to loose, or even anorexia and such. So I do think it&#8217;s wonderful if people can accept themselves the way they are and love themselves the way they are, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that there&#8217;s never room for improvement. You can love yourself, even if you are overweight, but if the doctor tells you that you might get diabetes or such and you decide not to do something about it, then you don&#8217;t really love yourself that much after all.</p>
<p>So, really guys, this is a great idea. Someone has to stop those people putting ignorant and absurd thoughts into the minds of our younger ones (because especially teenagers and such suffer from being teased for being too fat, and they are easiy influenced), because we all know that serious overweight is just as dangerous as anorexia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*floored* When gas is $4.09 a gallon in the US, how can these people find time to worry about being fat activists?  Srsly, wtf Internets?

...it wouldn't be that bad if they didn't insist that they're what EVERYONE should find attractive.  Honesty, yeah, fat people get bullied, but there's no reason to gang up and bully everyone else around, too.

And I just can't believe their posts that contradict university studies.  Yeah, sure, a "carrot and lemon peel" diet probably isn't going to work, but a balanced diet consisting of, say, (even just a little) daily exercise, consuming more fruits and veggies when you can, and cutting down saturated/ trans fats isn't something anyone should be scolded for.  It's not crazy, it's just scientifically proven to extend your life.

My brain is still having trouble processing the fact that there are fat activists, let alone that there's an IP-styled blog trying to knock some moderation into their extreme whatever-they-have-there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*floored* When gas is $4.09 a gallon in the US, how can these people find time to worry about being fat activists?  Srsly, wtf Internets?</p>
<p>&#8230;it wouldn&#8217;t be that bad if they didn&#8217;t insist that they&#8217;re what EVERYONE should find attractive.  Honesty, yeah, fat people get bullied, but there&#8217;s no reason to gang up and bully everyone else around, too.</p>
<p>And I just can&#8217;t believe their posts that contradict university studies.  Yeah, sure, a &#8220;carrot and lemon peel&#8221; diet probably isn&#8217;t going to work, but a balanced diet consisting of, say, (even just a little) daily exercise, consuming more fruits and veggies when you can, and cutting down saturated/ trans fats isn&#8217;t something anyone should be scolded for.  It&#8217;s not crazy, it&#8217;s just scientifically proven to extend your life.</p>
<p>My brain is still having trouble processing the fact that there are fat activists, let alone that there&#8217;s an IP-styled blog trying to knock some moderation into their extreme whatever-they-have-there.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on the weight-loss, Nat! I'm glad to hear that you're no longer tossing furniture around ;) I find that the more I lose, the better I feel and not just mentally, it's more of a physical thing. I never thought that my weight really affected my energy levels, but now I'm finding out that it did.

Joan, I think we're covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on the weight-loss, Nat! I&#8217;m glad to hear that you&#8217;re no longer tossing furniture around <img src='http://reason.babblative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> I find that the more I lose, the better I feel and not just mentally, it&#8217;s more of a physical thing. I never thought that my weight really affected my energy levels, but now I&#8217;m finding out that it did.</p>
<p>Joan, I think we&#8217;re covered.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need lives.</description>
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		<title>By: Nat Marie</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky, I know that we really haven't seen eye-to-eye ever, but I've learned something within the past year.

I've always been a big girl.  But I was fricken miserable.  I got bullied terribly when I was younger, and it was that vicious circle; depression=eat, eat=weight gain, weight gain=depression that landed me to pushing about 300 pounds. Which, of course made me absolutely miserable again.  I wasn't happy, and I don't know anyone who would be happy to be 300 pounds, but I know that they're out there.  

I believe that one needs to be happy with the way they are.  But when it comes to being that big and doing absolutely nothing about it, that's an issue.  There are legit reasons for being overweight (I have several), but it hasn't stopped me from getting me closer to a healthy weight.

Within the past 2 years, I have lost over 60 pounds.  The first few were slow, and got me very frustrated, but I kept trying.  Whatever.  I am proud of my weight loss, but I know that I have a ways to go (I'm still 70+ pounds overweight).  I feel better about myself, especially when I put on clothes that were 2 sizes too small for me in the past.  I'm actually thinking about taking up dancing because I refuse to get that big again.  Not when diabetes and high blood pressure runs in the family.

Sadly, some people are like "hey, I'm 300-400 pounds, and I'm proud of it! I might have diabetes, high cholesterol, hypertension (etc), but I look sexy!"

I think this site's a good idea, and I don't mind checking it out in the future.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky, I know that we really haven&#8217;t seen eye-to-eye ever, but I&#8217;ve learned something within the past year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been a big girl.  But I was fricken miserable.  I got bullied terribly when I was younger, and it was that vicious circle; depression=eat, eat=weight gain, weight gain=depression that landed me to pushing about 300 pounds. Which, of course made me absolutely miserable again.  I wasn&#8217;t happy, and I don&#8217;t know anyone who would be happy to be 300 pounds, but I know that they&#8217;re out there.  </p>
<p>I believe that one needs to be happy with the way they are.  But when it comes to being that big and doing absolutely nothing about it, that&#8217;s an issue.  There are legit reasons for being overweight (I have several), but it hasn&#8217;t stopped me from getting me closer to a healthy weight.</p>
<p>Within the past 2 years, I have lost over 60 pounds.  The first few were slow, and got me very frustrated, but I kept trying.  Whatever.  I am proud of my weight loss, but I know that I have a ways to go (I&#8217;m still 70+ pounds overweight).  I feel better about myself, especially when I put on clothes that were 2 sizes too small for me in the past.  I&#8217;m actually thinking about taking up dancing because I refuse to get that big again.  Not when diabetes and high blood pressure runs in the family.</p>
<p>Sadly, some people are like &#8220;hey, I&#8217;m 300-400 pounds, and I&#8217;m proud of it! I might have diabetes, high cholesterol, hypertension (etc), but I look sexy!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this site&#8217;s a good idea, and I don&#8217;t mind checking it out in the future.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Regine</title>
		<link>http://reason.babblative.com/2008/06/shaping-reason/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Regine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds promising. 
I have to agree with Aisling.  I am all for fitness and health. I don't see the smart thing about being fat and proud of it. Of course you have to accept yourself as you are, but that doesn't mean we don't have to work with ourselves and preserve our bodies and health. It's not about fashion or which beauty standards society presses upon us, it's about having quality in our lives and being healthy to be able to face what challenges life has for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds promising.<br />
I have to agree with Aisling.  I am all for fitness and health. I don&#8217;t see the smart thing about being fat and proud of it. Of course you have to accept yourself as you are, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t have to work with ourselves and preserve our bodies and health. It&#8217;s not about fashion or which beauty standards society presses upon us, it&#8217;s about having quality in our lives and being healthy to be able to face what challenges life has for us.</p>
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